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Realistic Proportions for Disney Princesses
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Mihawk	Aug 22 2016, 05:46 PM Post #46
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	OFG Aug 22 2016, 05:32 PM genetics definitely plays a huge role Sorry to be blunt but that's definitely BS. http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/is-anxiety-hereditary/ Quote: The search for specific genes related to anxiety disorders is in the preliminary phase ... they drew upon other research to conclude that there still may be a link between our DNA code and the occurrence of OCD, but these ideas still needed to be researched. Quote: Some of the environmental risk factors that can trigger anxiety include abuse of all kinds, traumatic events, stressful life events, difficult family relationships, lack of a strong social support system, low-income status, and poor overall health. Research has also suggested that when anxiety develops despite an environment that has none or few of these risk factors; it’s probably due to underlying genetic risk. Like I said exception and not the rule. Also for depression it's unclear for studies that seem to show a link between depression and genetics of whether it's hereditary or not because family members have constant interaction with each other. The highest I've read is 50-50 split between the cause being genetic or environmental on a national scale. Some are prone to it more sure but to say that it's primarily genetic is pure BS. And to say that it definetly is mainly genetic is even a further stretch since the research to show such is still inconclusive by self reporting.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 05:55 PM Post #47
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Good job finding a source. There are plenty more where that came from, and even the source you listed is saying basically what I'm saying. http://depressiongenetics.stanford.edu/mddandgenes.html https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-genetic-destiny/201411/genes-depression-and-anxiety http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/is-anxiety-hereditary/ All sources are going to say something slightly different. I'm going by experience. My grandmother has depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and OCD. My mother has anxiety. Several other family members have dealt with anxiety and/or depression. I have anxiety and have had depression in the past. Several distant relatives were institutionalized. When I went to a psychologist, I was told that it was genetic. I don't know how you could know more than a psychologist knows, but that's fine I guess. Edited by Doggo Champion 2k17, Aug 22 2016, 05:56 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Aug 22 2016, 06:00 PM Post #48
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	OFG Aug 22 2016, 01:31 PM Just to play devil's advocate a little: Quote: Didn't read most of thread but imo, fictional characters don't need to look completely realistic. It's not the artists fault that kids can't distinguish between fiction and reality. I'd blame that more on the parent. So it's my parents' fault that I have anxiety and low self-confidence? They must have raised me wrong? You don't think it could have anything to do with the fact that mental illnesses are mostly caused by genetics? I'm saying that if someone takes the proportions of cartoons seriously then there's a problem. That's not the cartoon's fault. I would blame that on the parents before the cartoons. But not just parents I'm sure there could be other factors. I'm just saying parents happened to be the first to come to mind. I didn't think much of it
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Wagwan	Aug 22 2016, 06:04 PM Post #49
Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #12,260 Joined: April 22, 2015	Ssj3vegito96 Aug 22 2016, 06:00 PM That's not the cartoon's fault. Ya gotta take responsibility at some point, kids have like no exposure to anything when they're younger so they dont have a ton to work with if you expect them to reason all that out source: knowing a guy that didn't think chinese people were real and why would he they look weird when they're drawn and he never saw one at the time Edited by Wagwan, Aug 22 2016, 06:04 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Aug 22 2016, 06:09 PM Post #50
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	So what's your point? He was a kid. Kids think a lot of weird things at first. Then they grow up learn more about reality. If they don't learn more about reality that's not the cartoon creater's fault
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 06:13 PM Post #51
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Idk tho, I see cartoons as a good opportunity for kids to learn about other people and their differences. It's better that they're exposed to different types of people early on so they don't freak out in public when they see a disabled person, a gay person, an overweight person, etc.



Mihawk	Aug 22 2016, 06:15 PM Post #52
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	OFG Aug 22 2016, 05:55 PM Good job finding a source. There are plenty more where that came from, and even the source you listed is saying basically what I'm saying. http://depressiongenetics.stanford.edu/mddandgenes.html https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-genetic-destiny/201411/genes-depression-and-anxiety http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/is-anxiety-hereditary/ All sources are going to say something slightly different. I'm going by experience. My grandmother has depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and OCD. My mother has anxiety. Several other family members have dealt with anxiety and/or depression. I have anxiety and have had depression in the past. Several distant relatives were institutionalized. When I went to a psychologist, I was told that it was genetic. I don't know how you could know more than a psychologist knows, but that's fine I guess. It's not saying what you're saying. To once again highlight what you said: Quote: genetics definitely plays a huge role Which is wrong. Like I said in my post the highest I've seen is a 50-50 find which I see in the first link you posted. Quote: Good job finding a source. Thanks! Quote: There are plenty more where that came from There are Quote: and even the source you listed is saying basically what I'm saying. As shown above, nope! Quote: All sources are going to say something slightly different. None of the sources here really contradict each other if that's what you're saying Quote: I'm going by experience. That's good, but sometimes I like science! Quote: When I went to a psychologist, I was told that it was genetic. That doesn't seem to contradict anything said so far, and neither does your family's disposition towards it. Quote: I don't know how you could know more than a psychologist knows, but that's fine I guess. I can only really quote PhDs or quote others who quote PhDs and studies.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 06:31 PM Post #53
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Oh, so you're nit-picking my word choice, not my actual stance on the issue. What a waste of time. lol Edited by Doggo Champion 2k17, Aug 22 2016, 06:32 PM.



Mihawk	Aug 22 2016, 06:44 PM Post #54
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	OFG Aug 22 2016, 06:31 PM Oh, so you're nit-picking my word choice, not my actual stance on the issue. What a waste of time. lol I mean lol, somehow I get the feeling this has become emotionally charged. That's pretty much why I nitpicked the last post because there was no actual stances in it. Originally your stance was as you posted "genetics plays the biggest part in anxiety/depression" - not sure what it even is anymore. So yes major waste of time.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 06:49 PM Post #55
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Well I'm basically getting frustrated because we seem to agree. You're just nit-picking my word choice. "Genetics play a huge role" is a sweeping statement. There's no need to argue with me, and I'm in a bad mood. I asked to have the topic dropped a few posts back; I didn't feel like arguing it nor was it necessary (hence my short, not-so-great posts), but I felt obligated to respond when it kept going because it seemed I was being mocked. Maybe I'm wrong and my mood is just affecting how I communicate today. Either way, let's drop it. Clearly we've agreed since the beginning and there's no point continuing.



Wagwan	Aug 22 2016, 08:41 PM Post #56
Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #12,260 Joined: April 22, 2015	Ssj3vegito96 Aug 22 2016, 06:09 PM So what's your point? He was a kid. Kids think a lot of weird things at first. Then they grow up learn more about reality. If they don't learn more about reality that's not the cartoon creater's fault that you cant expect adolescent people to have good judgement bc well obv reasons (for 1 they'll believe literally anything)



Buuberries	Aug 23 2016, 09:46 PM Post #57
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	Tl;Dr nature vs nurture is a false dichotomy
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ZeldAlice	Oct 9 2016, 07:24 PM Post #58
Posts: 242 Group: Member Member #13,425 Joined: August 4, 2016 Gender Female Country Sweden	I dunno if this thread may be a bit old to reply on, but I'll do it anyway. AND there are so many here and many different oponions here that I agree with on this. Sure, I myself as a kid never really looked much at their bodies (plus that I was so annoyed that people kept calling me anorectic and all in school), I looked more into their personalities and their singing voices etc, but that's just me. AND other children, indeed many children, can still be affected by this and their body-types even though it is at the same time not the cartoons fault either. I do Think that parents could make alot of change about this too. But one thing I have noticed in these latest years (and yes, I'm going to use Elsa as an example), she is not AS slim as a majority of the other Disney Princesses and what I personally could relate alot to as an adult was Elsa's anxiety, social anxiety etc, I also even could relate alot to Anna as well. And with this I mean to say that, yes it goes slowly, but it seems like we are getting there with a Little bit more realistc Disney Princesses, even though we still have a long way to go. Edited by ZeldAlice, Oct 9 2016, 07:26 PM.



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